Wired direkt auf RasberryMatic und USB RS485 Adapter

[AdX]

Lohnen würde es sich auf jeden Fall, gibt noch genug Installationen die auf den "alten" Standard setzen.
Wie erwähnt geht es mir nicht um die 70€ sondern darum etwas zu haben was ich 1:1 mit der CCU1 austauschen kann.

Anscheinend hat sich schon jemand die Arbeit mit dem Reverse Engineering gemacht:
https://github.com/kc-GitHub/FHEM-HM485 ... rotocol.pm

[jmaus]

Na dann melde dich zurück wenn du etwas lauffähiges ähnlich dem hmlangw daemon für die funk lan gateway Simulation hast, dann integriere ich das gerne in RaspberryMatic

[AdX]

Na dann melde dich zurück wenn du etwas lauffähiges ähnlich dem hmlangw daemon für die funk lan gateway Simulation hast, dann integriere ich das gerne in RaspberryMatic

Ja gerne, was mich dann wieder zu meiner ursprünglich Frage zurückbringt.
Wie funktioniert die Anbindung des RS485 LAN Gateways? Gibt es dazu Doku oder einen Quelltext?

[deimos]

Hi,

wie oft den noch: Nein, das ist alles undokumentiert und im.Closed Source von eQ-3 "versteckt".

Viele Grüße
Alex

[AdX]

Hi,

wie oft den noch: Nein, das ist alles undokumentiert und im.Closed Source von eQ-3 "versteckt".

Viele Grüße
Alex

Danke für deine Geduld.

[jp112sdl]

Mal noch ein rein konzeptioneller Gedanke:
Ist in dem HM LAN Gateway überhaupt eine eQ-3 Logik eingebaut?
Ich vermute (hab selbst kein Wired), dass aufgrund der Größe des Hutschienen-Adapters nicht viel mehr drin sein kann als ein RS485/LAN Modul.
Also der hs485d hat das Wired-Protokoll inne, schickt die Pakete übers LAN ans Hutschienenmodul, wo sie dann 1:1 auf den Bus gegeben werden und bei den Wired-Geräte ankommen.
Vielleicht kann ja mal jemand ein LAN GW zerlegen. Würde mich schon interessieren, wie es da drin aussieht.

...nimmt man nun also einen USB RS485 Adapter, erzeugt mit ser2net eine Brücke und fügt in der WebUI dann ein HM LAN Gateway mit Adresse "localhost" hinzu, könnte es funktionieren.

[AdX]

Zerlegt habe ich den Gateway schon, da mein Plan A momentan ist den (zerlegten) Gateway zusammen mit einem Raspberry in ein neues Gehäuse zu setzen und die Anschlüsse unabhängig nach außen zu führen.
Fotos kann ich später hochladen.

Ich denke aber dass der Gateway mehr kann als Lan zu RS485, wenn ich die Zeit finde dann möchte ich mir mal die Kommunikation auf dem Bus ansehen.
Leider kenne ich mich zu wenig mit der CCU Software selbst aus um auf der Softwareseite angreifen zu können.
Am einfachsten wäre es wenn man die Kommandos zum Gateway in der Software abgreifen könnte bevor sie (verschlüsselt) über das Netzwerk geschickt werden.

Die Library für den Gateway auf der CCU selbst scheint, sowohl die Konfiguration für den Gateway zu enthalten als auch das Kommunikationsprotokoll.
Heißt da kann man sich nicht dazwischen hängen.

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[krk-elektrotechnik]

Moin,
hier mal ein paar Bilder aus dem Inneren des 485LGW.
Auf Wunsch auch gern per E-Mail in Originalauflösung.
VG
Benjamin

[jp112sdl]

Danke für die Bilder.
Lag ich mit meiner Vermutung wohl falsch. Ist doch noch eigene Logik drin... in dem IC unter dem QR-Sticker.
Kannst du noch rausbekommen, was das für einer ist?

[krk-elektrotechnik]

Danke für die Bilder.

gerne

Kannst du noch rausbekommen, was das für einer ist?

Klaro. Bitteschön:

stm32f107rct6
https://de.farnell.com/stmicroelectroni ... dp/1737139